He who lives by the sword, should train with it frequently. German: German Mfg. Hardback with dust cover. If the blank toggles are related to the Riff contract, they would have been manufactured in or before 1926. I have another on the way with two more soon to be ordered, see, I originally was only going to acquire one luger to set off my axis collection. They appear to fall into two categories: P08s that always were P08s and P08s that were formerly unmarked Landjgerei LP08s (many 1918 DWM LP08s) that were reworked by the PTV in 1929-30 and reissued as P08s to the Landjgerei and other police. Signed & Numbered by both authors. administrative district, Enumeration of centuria, or factory numbers, or property numbers, Berlin However, in 1941, Fraktur was banned in a Schrifterlass (edict on script) signed by Martin Bormann as so-called Schwabacher Judenlettern ("Schwabacher Jewish letters"). The corner of the grip was removed to allow the safety to function. pistols were rejected at the acceptance procedure it would explain that these were replaced with some pistols in the v block. 1703 marked muzzle protector attached to a P.08 barrel, which is part of a 4mm sub caliber training assembly, which could also be used as a stand-alone muzzle protector in conjunction with the new police cleaning rod with brass stopper. Thus, unit marks give one some history about the items on which 2866 is pictured in two views, one with the Xs removed and the other enhanced. 13. From the Dr. Geoffrey Sturgess collection. Simson proofs. Landjaegerei (rural constabulary), Assigned to Nickle plated (1900-1908) or tin plated (1908-1945). What is unclear is the status of the Mndungsschoner or muzzle protector, which was meant to be used with the new police cleaning rods, as there is no mention as to what provisions were made regarding how or where they were carried/stored? And in closing, a little German Police marching music Hoch Deutschland Marsch Hermann Richter Grosses Blas-Orchester der Schutzpolizei Berlin. unmarked commercial Police style holsters have been identified. document.write(''). Included with the lot is a black leather flap holster (converted from Artillery to Police configuration, renumbered to match pistol, extensive hand . There are several markings on the holster. $1,000. Inter-war Commercial Lugers (both rework and new manufacture); all Police models (both rework and new manufacture); and all Dutch and Finnish Lugers are of particular interest. The German purpose about HIPO was clear: To help Gestapo as a Danish helping-police. This is one heck of an obscure way to do it! Police unit marked on the back is S.B.13.435 (Municipal Police, Berlin unit 13) as described by the seller. A community dedicated to Lugers, Central Powers, Axis, Allied and related WW-I and WW-II pistols by their scholars, collectors, owners and enthusiasts. Additionally, it seems incongruous that a 1920s post WW1 manufacture brass stud was added or replaced when clearly period correct brass studs were available as attested by the added brass stud, while the apparent goal was to modify the cleaning rod pouch/sleeve and cover flap to accommodate a Police cleaning rod as the lower replaced brass stud would clearly interfere with the insertion of a Police cleaning rod. The breech is stamped 1920 and the center toggle has DWM monogram on it. Also, recently in Strafrecht (Criminal Law) z. L. significant upheavals took place. with the following rear cover page translations, of which both Volume I and Volume II front and rear covers are identical, with the rear cover upper paragraph statement: The "Guide" compiled in invaluable source of information about the often obscure markings found on 1935 and 1936 are the only known manufacturing dates for the TP or Technische Polizeischule property marked holsters. If you collect Lugers, you need this book. The markings on the right side shows that this P08 was manufactured in 1939 by Mauser, Oberndorf and used by POL izei (Police). $4,495.00 $4,045.00 Compare is described in great detail on page 25, Figure 18, see page 137 of Eugene Bender's "Luger Holsters & Accessories" for a similarly marked holster, RIA 2013 Paul Goldner RBD Halle holster, sold for $3133, Poulin 2015 Auction, Bahnschutz holster, front view only, eBay Auction, 1933 Paul Goldner Halle a. S. holster, RIA 2018, Bahnschutz RBD Halle S holster offering, Luger Holsters & Their Accs., P137 Bahnschutz holster, M. Morris, This association is not supported by any distinguishing markings different from any other, later style, purportedly Magdeburg Depot rework Mg10 Stick Wing eagle stamps have been identified on the rear frame of P08 Lugers, Weimar eagle style E/Mg10 stampings of the 41 dated WwMg/41 and E/Mg10 P08 holsters, a stand-alone E/Mg10 Nazi Swastika stamping on a 1933 dated Robert Larsen Weimar era Police holster, two 1933 Robert Larsen Police holsters with and without the E/Mg10 eagle, an eagle over circled Nazi Swastika police inspection stamp, a unique eagle over circled Nazi Swastika police B inspection stamp, Only two are identified in publications and only partial pictures, made of impregnated pressed paper and is pictured in TPLAP, V3, page 1245 Fig. Potsdam = Oak*, in June 1921. The base forms of the unit marks for this police force are contained in and discussed in The Borchardt & Luger Automatic Pistols 2010 & 2011 by Grtz/Sturgess in Volume III, C19 Accessories, pages 1332-1333. The 662V serial number described in the text caption was substituted with 873V. Prussian Police (Schutzpolizei), 1922. The Police Lugers: German Police Lugers and Their Markings 1918-1958 book is in very low demand now as the rank for the book is 5,705,216 at the moment. Walsworth Publishing Co., Marceline, MO 64658 USA.]. Mike, i don't think Joop is doing that? Made in Germany and completely lead free. It didn't really have to exactly comply or match others issued to a military unit preparing for battle. Pictured is an example featured in Weimar Lugers by J Still, 1993, 05-24-2021 12:04 AM by Neil Young. The base forms of the unit marks for this police force are contained in The magazine has a blued tube and aluminum base. swiveling wooden barrel shaped handle, implying the police cleaning rods are a stand-alone tool. As you see - new evidence produces mostly new questions. It is interesting that the well-known Luger dealer that sold the Sturgess cut-back LP.08 holster had to be aware of the cleaning rod issue as the text description, while generally describes the changes to the holster cleaning rod pouch, tactfully avoids the obvious fact that a police cleaning rod with a brass stopper will not fit. This is even if the cleaning rod got past the upper, definitely added brass stud. This Police holster definitely was used in two different locations or districts as indicated by the S. Hn. The seller states that: It is said this marking was used to indicate issue to security guards at military installations. the center Police officer with a white colored belt. Pictured are multiple views of the four brass studs and their dimensions used with the subject holster. S.B.S.I 1.7 - item 7 in the 1st Centuria within command I of the South ad[6]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/Cash2.jpg'; Apparently, as to whether to modify the cleaning rod pouch/sleeve and or cover flap of a cut-back Artillery to Police holster to accommodate a Police cleaning rod is necessary, all depends on the availability multiple makers of used and unused WW1 Artillery holsters to different Artillery holster leather makers in 1920s Germany that were available to a host of leather craftsmen to be refurbished for Police use. wooden box sliding cover lid, which This is particularly believable as this holster was not for a primary combat activity. When identified, either gold or silver, some dated and maker marked, these Prussian State Police belt buckles are described as officer belt buckles and this is somewhat supported as many pictures exist of Weimar Police with ordinary belt buckles. made LP.08 holster, cut-back modified/converted in the Weimar era for use with a police P.08, 4-inch barrel Luger. When found, the holsters are generally expensive, even in fair to poor condition. introduced sometime in the late 1920s, and later in the early 1930s, many being police acceptance marked on the shaft. officially discontinued. Pictured is a period photograph of three Nazi Police officers with round Gott mit uns marked belt buckles with the Police officers on the left and right side with black leather belts and the center Police officer with a white colored belt. The reassignment of 9754r to the Weimar navy explains the removal of the Sear Safety and the Magazine Safety. There is, however, conclusive evidence that the German police did indeed use cut-back Artillery holsters in the early 1920s Weimar era as a search of the Berlin Federal Archives located a picture identified as Bundesarchiv. Simson & Company - Suhl, Germany&break;4. In the example 2 conversion, to a complete P.08 style holster, the rear, horizontal leather stock block was removed and twin belt loops were added, curiously, one wider than the other, which may be a later repair replacement. Edward Tinker - Co-Author of Police Lugers & Simson Lugers - Veteran Bring Backs Vol 1-4. yes sir it the sear and magazine safety installed. The lack of relevant textbooks has often been put to the test. Ventura, CA 93006, USA.) included provisions for two spare magazines, cleaning rod, box of period ammunition and a loading tool. It has all matching parts to include the side plate and take down lever which were stamped again with the same 2 digits as before but on the front of each part like would would see on a military marked pistol. the Treaty of Versailles on German soil. ad[9]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/Cash3.jpg'; Edward Tinker. the police cleaning rod was used in conjunction with a Mndungsschoner or muzzle protector attached to the P.08 sight band/block, many collectors and dealers are not The serial number for the pistol is 4801 with a suffix of "t" which was mentioned as one of the possibilites by Ron. Item Information. According to August Weiss these were used 'as is' on pistols assembled by Mauser and which were exclusively sold to the German Police. Figure 47c shows a table or bench with several Police Lugers and accessories and particularly interesting in the foreground is a muzzle protector, next to three training rounds. I would guess that Simson was doing a lot of military sales in 1926, and since it was a commercial venture, DWM stepped in. rotating clockwise the short collar section, about 270 degrees by 1) rotating the threaded, knurled In fact, the majority of the pistols having a SN between 1v and 524v were produced and proofed in Berlin. Featured in chronological order are various new 1929 and later, second pattern manufacture police holsters with added magazine pouch, and up-strap/keeper cover flap closure in the collection: Weimar era German police, second pattern P.08 Luger holster that is maker marked Paul Gldner Halle a.S. or Halle an der Saale (Halle on the Saale River) on the back and dated 1933. links[7]='https://www.marnamilitaria.com'; The first pictured example of a multiple conversion of an artillery to police holster conversion. This Luger has all matching numbers. Pictured are yet two examples of cut-back artillery holsters modified, albeit crudely, for belt carry; Example 1 and Example 2. Goertz and D. Bryans, Walsworth Publishing Co., Marceline MO, USA, 1997. Knowing that, and having the history of the 19-130 text caption: A post-WW1 new manufactured police issue cleaning rod with soft-soldered stop for use with the Mndungsschoner for the P.08.These were issued to the police on a scale of one per pistol.Many of these rods will be police unit marked on the shaft between handle and muzzle stop. The is a 9mm, all matching police luger. Post it is stamped on the rear with the original holstered police Luger serial number 5008. fortunately the holster still retains the matching 5008 serial number stamped loading tool. The leather, stitching and markings are complete. Not in the news1 million cops flawlessly protected you Life in the Third Reich & Weimar Republic, Kriegsmarine surface ships and Kriegsmarine in general, Luftwaffe air units and Luftwaffe in general, German Strategy & General German Military Discussion, NSDAP, other party organizations & Government, The Dieter Zinke Axis Biographical Research Section, The Ron Klages Panzer & other vehicles Section, Panzer & other vehicles - Photo threads, Axis Documents, Feldpost numbers, Postcards & Other Paper Items, The United Kingdom & its Empire and Commonwealth 1919-45, The Allies and the Neutral States in general, German Colonies and Overseas Expeditions, The end of the Ottoman Empire 1908-1923, Translation help: Breaking the Sound Barrier. Captain Ernst Roehm, future head of the SA [Sturmabteilung, a.k.a. Potsdam=Eiche, im Juni 1921. slides open to reveal five compartments containing: a folded, felt-like material cleaning rag. regulations issued in 1920, and are shown in the following table. German Small Arms Markings From Authentic Sources by J. Muenchen (Munich procurement office), Wirtschaftsamt Still, page 174 Figure 28b describes and pictures a P.08 barrel installed ERMA muzzle protector in the text caption that states: This device fits over the muzzle of a Luger and reportedly protects the barrel rifling at the muzzle from the cleaning rod shaft. Feedback. After the war 2-300 HIPO-men were sentenced to death for brutality, killings and torture of their own countrymen. This allows the cleaning of the barrel and receiver chamber without any damage to the barrel muzzle face or damaging contact to the breechblock face. Pictured are a few examples: The holster, shown with pistol, is unusual as it was made without a loading tool pouch under the cover flap and the cover flap lacks a keeper for the holster body attached closing strap. The IMKK, Inter-Alliierte Militaer-Kontroll-Kommission (Inter-Allied view 2 and That will teach me not to depend on my memory! the same style holster pictured with a 1920 chamber stamped commercial/Army/Police Luger 70319. is an identical holster in the collection, 1908/13 commercial/military/police, no chamber date Luger, serial number 69859. separate view of 69859 serialized in the hidden commercial style. edge of the barrel sight band/block. Polizei-Praesident Berlin=The Royal Police-President Berlin. Luger Holsters & Their Accs., P137 Bahnschutz holster, M. Morris. These bayonets were carried by all Police, and since Germany was a Police State, there were a lot of them. Kriminalpolizei (detective force), Assigned to GERMAN POLICE LUGER P08 MAGAZINE DOVE MARKINGS. Pictured are two views of a 1933 dated A. FISCHER BERLIN C.2, sunburst (1929-36) stamped police holster, issue or pistol serial number 38. Additionally, hand written in pencil on the wooden cover is Fehrenbach, which is an area in Germany. Brass stud added to the (cover) flap, additional brass stud added to the cleaning rod pouch. The Borchardt & Luger Automatic Pistols book publications picture and describe cut-back artillery Luger holsters as specifically modified for police Luger carry, there are no Luger book published, period pictures of German Police with a cut-back artillery Luger holster, nor with any standard, non-police P.08 type Luger holster. Versailles, and after repeated demands by the IMKK, on June 29, 1921, the This statement appears to be somewhat contradicted, where earlier on page 1262 Fig. This is an apolitical forum for discussions on the Axis nations and related topics hosted by the Axis History Factbook in cooperation with Christian Ankerstjernes Panzerworld and Christoph Awender's WW2 day by day. August Weiss states further that the 'Riff' lot was produced by DWM late 1927 - early 1928. Lot 0478, Jan 14, 2023. Bavarian State Police (Landespolizei), 1930. influence of its police during the violence and disorder of the Weimar The table of contents identifies the handling and operation of all pistols used by the German police in Dresden in 1946. There are other, more obscure WW1 or Weimar era police organization affiliated belt buckles with unique design emblems. On the grip strap there are the markings L.Me.284. 3. Abtlg. Even though the unidentified holster has been modified to fit a P.08, it is suggested by collectors that the Railway Protection Police mostly used non-Luger pistols. links[9]='http://www.cashicollection.com'; Pictured is the holster used with the 1950s Bahnpolizei FN 1922 pistol, separate and together with pistol. a 4-digit 1108 believed to be a Police P.08 serial number. The police officer is therefore faced with the varied expenses. links[6]='http://www.cashicollection.com'; Due to the different design of the variation 1 muzzle protector this particular interference issue is not encountered. German weapons and equipment until 1937, when unit marking of materiel was To see other police manual examples, such as full pagination and other details, click here. All of this is conjecture of course but it stands up to close inspection. German Police Lugers and their markings 1918-1958 by Edward B. Tinker and Dwight Gruber; 2012 police forces to their 1914 level, namely 150,000 men. 5.6 (Cleaning Kit 34) pictured (Fig. Luger wooden box cleaning kit. We've been wringing out the SFAR for several weeks and, with the first 500 rounds in the rearview, decided to go for some quiet time. Weimar Police photos of what looks to be all NCO personnel with ordinary belt buckles. Still 1993 on page 174, Fig. )" The only thing I can add is that the "R" in the marking indicates "Revierhauptmannschaft" which was apparently a militarized Police used in large cities as an adjunct to the regular police (Still) I bought it for $400. The added cover flap leather keeper strip is correctly attached with single line stitching. by Poot 08 May 2016, 08:12, Post WOL, 1977 by S. Costanzo on page 105, described as a 1933 Heers Waffen Amt proof. It has the matching last two digits of the serial number in the various other parts. or Landjgerei Schleswig; view 1, view 2 and view 3. 45aand by dk598 16 Aug 2016, 04:12. The thumb safety is marked "Gesichert" and when exposed (1096) NOTE: Photographs taken today 7: 505: . Polizei-Direction or Knigliche Polizei-Richtung=Royal Police-Direction, Der Kgl. All of the blank toggle guns are reported as Police guns. regulations issued in 1930, and are shown in the following table. Still further states: Reportedly, muzzle protectors were issued with some Prussian State Police Lugers. The reworking ends in May 1921. with LANDESPOLIZEI [7] (State Police) FR WRTTEMBERG-HOHENZOLLERN[8] marked on the 435 Municipal Police Berlin unit 13 Pistol s/n 9140e. Despite the fact that both Weimar Lugers and The base is too thick and the ball shape is incorrect. III. 1644 of the 49th centuria within II command, Dusseldorf (S.D. page 174, Fig. Condition:--not specified . Additionally, based on Based on the ratio proportion of the three rounds next to the muzzle protector, clearly indicates that the pictured muzzle protector is the smaller or shorter length spring-loaded variation 1 example and not the variation 2 longer length, not spring-loaded ERMA made muzzle protector. Any attempt to insert or force the Police cleaning rod with brass stopper past the brass stud would damage, either the rather stiff, added inflexible cleaning rod upper leather pouch section, the holster body or the actual cleaning rod. the interpretation of German unit marks is outside the scope of the A complete discussion of The pistol itself looks like it started out of a commercial luger since their was no chamber date, the take down lever and side plates 2-digit serial #'s were stamped beneath, and the serial number is a 4-digit one. Igorak89 Member Posts: 35 Joined: 03 Oct 2013, 10:01 Location: Serbia Re: Luger markings identification - help Bie der Reubearbeitung des Kap. He must have the intellectual armament for his exercise of the environment so completely that he always meets the right. He should conscientiously fulfill his obligations, should be professional in his measures, be in touch with the public, but also act strictly against obvious violations, on the other hand avoid all incidents or even abuses by which the mood of a considerable part of the population is even more against those Police are involved when it is unfortunately already the case. S.B.13.435 - Berlin unit 13 - Pistole s/n 9140e. ad[8]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/JRBMbanner.jpg'; subcommissions and left Germany during January 1927. 3 days Left MAUSER C96 RED 9 POLICE, SIMSON REWORK. A good example of that was the 1927 and 1928 Simson lugers, they have been shown to be incorrect and wrong. 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