Additionally, I am confused about your belief regarding the Spirit of God (Ruach Elohim) introduced in Genesis 1:2. Is 119 Ministries a "Cult"? they devalue the Holy Spirit and I am trying to save this man who became a follower for the past two years now. And I have watched these same people go from belief to belief. Your allegiance is not to the Scriptures; its to your fringy male supremacist views that you try to force INTO the Scriptures. If you had done your homework, you would know that I was using lexical aids such as Bauer, Mounce, Kubo, Armstrong, Busby, and BDB while you were still in middle school or even elementary school. ( for no fruit to help the cause of our good shepherd) Ever wonder why so many Christians are becoming more like the world? So sad to have their mind so turned around. Well, Hebrews 10:26-31 seems to tell a different story: 26 For if we deliberately continue to sin after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but only the terrifying prospect of Judgment, of raging fire that will consume the enemies. The old wine is NOT good enough for sin redrmption and Gods life flowing thru us to others; thru Christ in us!! The works of Abraham was not only circumcision, but in fact, the whole Torah. I finally got around to listening to one of yourinteresting videos. The month of Aviv is the time Pesach begins this is due to the Aviv (spreading of the barely or ripening) This is a Moed because it has everything to do with God since he is the one who sets the time for the fruit to ripen. 5 As for you, always be sober-minded, endure suffering, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry. Little has changed over the centuries, except that there have always been faithful who sought to keep Torah, including the Sabbath (rest), the appointed times of YHVH,, eating only clean animals aka food, etc., as well as lawless ones who persecuted them. Now, as for the name HEBREW ROOTS MOVEMENT, another neat little package that we here in the west have assigned a name to. I stayed away from all churches and decided to read scripture for what is was The WORD of the Living God. Notice I did not call you a name, I said you sound.. Hi Cem, Now that we know what scripture actually says, answer these questions. The New Testament is just a continuation of the Old!!) Thank you for your comments. I do not find anything they say or teach as being sarcastic. That teaching method is not that far from the rabbis who taught in the name of an older rabbi. I think that Natan is telling the truth what he experienced. 5 (4) You are to follow ADONAI your God, fear him, obey his mitzvot (commandment), listen to what he says, serve him and cling to him; 6 (5) and that prophet or dreamer is to be put to death; because he urged rebellion against ADONAI your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you from a life of slavery; in order to seduce you away from the path ADONAI your God ordered you to follow. 2018 Copyright Tim McHyde All Rights Reserved, Print page cleanly (Javascript must be on). But well thats the way it is. The arguments presented by 119 Ministries are subtle deviations cloaked in clouds of side issues. This is exactly why everyone has to read the Holy Bible on their own and honestly pray to God, pray to Jesus Christ for wisdom and discernment. ). Jesus or Paul? ( John 5:39) The testimony of Jesus IS THE spirit of prophecy. ( Rev. Every instant of every minute of every hour of every day. Sad. Life is either Fear or Love Then, You need to Test and Study all Things 2 Timothy 2:15. Tovia will debate with anyone, any Christian pastor except Dr Brown. This is poor apologetics. (what does Satan, I mean Santa have to do with anything, except NOTHING, or Easter, one of the many names of Mithraism and the eggs dipped in the blood of your sacrificed infant to YOUR god, Molech) Its Sun-god worship. I am not comparing anything or anyone. And for the record, many of the leaders or teachers in that movement are former Baptist and Pentecostal pastors (some leading Christian churches anywhere from 20-45 years) who found that church doctrine just didnt line up with Scripture in its original context. Why does Gods word say Ruach Elohim rather than simply Elohim? You seemingly dismiss the Hebrew word ruach (Strongs Hebrew #7307) as only meaning breath. Yes, it is translated breath about 27 times in the word of God. Also by Jesus saying He came for the lost sheep, hes fulfilling the messianic prophecy you spoke of from Jeremiah. New Flash: the Messianic Community of the 1st century was the original Hebrew Roots Movement. I, as a born again believing Jew, say to Christians everywhere, the exact same thing. Also, Id be very interested in collaborating with you on some other debasings of 119 ministries. Or was she in submission to the owner of the restaurant who rewards her with a paycheck for following his order to care for his customers?? The issue only arises when a Christian attempts to isolate and remove all things Jewish from the faith and teachings of Jesus and ALL his disciples. The stuff in the Torah just lays out examples of what to do in different situations. Oh foolish Galatians . . Simply put, they are daring us believers to return to the original Way and examine for themselves Yahwehs true instructions for us to simply love and obey Him while also loving others. You cant take a few verses here and there to phase out others. This is why we are not under the law when we are in Christ. Your pejorative idea that speaking Hebrew words is a prideful thing of knowledge and warning of it being a spirit one take by exercising Jewish things. Thus Gods commands.). But the point needs to be made that parts of Christianty are indeed keeping much of Gods law I mean, why tithe if youre not supposed to keep THAT law? Which ever day belongs to Christ ..I think they all belong to Him but you may observe only one day ..Our brother Paul allows for that .. Seventh, I recommend putting a flail, an ax, a hoe, a spade, a distaff, or a spindle into the hands of young, strong Jews and Jewesses and letting them earn their bread in the sweat of their brow But if we are afraid that they might harm us or our wives, children, servants, cattle, etc., then let us emulate the common sense of other nations such as France, Spain, Bohemia, etc., then eject them forever from the country . In fact the entire book of Hebrews is Gods love to encourage Messsnic believers going thru persecution just prior to the destruction of the second Temple ..and Jerusalem! There are different laws mentioned throughout scripture and taken out of context in many verses. Now if you were in my realm of influence and you took notice that I did not and others around me did not eat Pork or that we did not partake of the Pagan Festivals, I would simply educate you on what the scriptures fully say on the matters. Because it will lead to This is where THEY are wrong. I believe in God the Father, God the Son, and the Spirit of God (Holy Spirit). When I speak Italian, I do my best never to think in English, Spanish or German. What distinguishes us from the demons and the fallen angels is our willingness to obey the Torah of the Messiah. Many Protestants continue to believe that Martin Luther wanted to completely break away from the Roman Catholic Church, when in reality; he only wanted to reform it, hence the term Reformation. One my children obeys my rules far more than the other. walking as Jesus walked that is judgement and doing the opposite of what he in no doubt preaches from the Pulpit. Dear Sister, Jesus tells us to keep His commands, what do you think that means? The organization you referenced places a different emphasis on the law and people's obedience of it. But first yes of course I forgive you. Translations for Psalms 119:1. One other thing: I can follow the rebuttals The difference between the blue and the black text is indistinguishable. Because the point is? Wednesday, 18 January 2023 12:46 pm - Posted in Headlines. Email. If the heart of the sinner was to be cleansed, something that would be required for the establishment of the New Covenant (Jeremiah 31:34), then One greater than Aaron would be needed (9:9, 14). Jesus just refreshed this commandment because he had an audience of heartened hearts and when your heart is heartened you will be blinded and you will not understand Gods words. The context of Heb 8:13 is Jeremiah 31:31-34, and what is near to disappearing (FUTURE TENSE in the Greek and Aramaic) is the sinful nature of **man** that breaks Gods Torah (which is how sin is defined in 1 John 3:4), not the standard of Torah itself. Tammuz is a Babylonian mighty one.. How can the so called Hebrew calender then be the correct one if it uses Babylonian deities as its months? You are leading to false conclusions and use continual ad hominem attacks. It is not necessarily sin for other believers. In that same hour he rejoiced in the Holy Spirit and said, I thank you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to little children; yes, Father, for such was your gracious will. (Luke 10:21), I write these things to you about those who are trying to deceive you. (download the e-sword and mysword programs, free, BTW). Pray! 119 Ministries also locally supports the homeless, elderly, widows, and orphans in various capacities. to throw or prostrate oneself, throw oneself upon We sent the paper to you for private review; we were ignored. What is happening today has been prophesied in his word. THIRD, What do you think about 119 Ministries teaching entitled What is New about the New Covenant? Even the new commandments given by Christ are found in the Old Testament/Torah. If the first covenant was given to Jews, then how can the new covenant (actually renewed covenant) be given to Christians when it was never given to Christians in the first place? with the house of ISRAEL and with the house of JUDAH. And dont forget that Yeshua the Messiah also said this: Members of His body of His flesh and of His bones., There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus., But, Spiritual things are foolishness to the natural man because they are spiritually discerned, For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. (Revelation 16:14) When I stand before God I can say I chose not to partake of anything that might remotely offend Him. Usually when the topic turns from general feel good Christianity today to the specifics found in Gods word, like observing the Sabbath of the Lord & the Feasts of The Lord, you will most likely get the usual the OT law has been done away with and we are not under the law but grace but many also follow this up with besides its impossible to obey the law, no one can obey it!. It will blown your mind and reveal just how far off course the church has been since the Civil War. I started keeping the Shabbat on Fri sundown to Sat sundown. test everything, hold onto what is good - 1 Thessalonians 5:21. Its the details that 119 continues to twist. This trinity is NOT pagan, and I dont fall for his lies. And 119 Ministries is presenting false choices which limit ones path to the truth. That defines a false teacher. Leah, stay strong! Jesus was, indeed, Jewish. cult/noun noun: cult; plural noun: cults Thank you for your time. As with other Hebrew Roots groups, many Christians consider 119 ministries a cult. what I hear and see most Christians act on or quote is that somehow this was a special thing only revealed to the Israelites, and therefore mistakenly conclude that somehow this LAW is now abolished. This does not mean one is to go out and willfully sin because they have grace! -Galatians 2:16, 21, Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith? The prophets, in effect, taught: Thus, it seems like trying to get back to Yahwehs original ways of loving and obeying Him without man-made distractions and interpretations of the bible is nothing short of wiseit clearly sets His people apart when they simply obey in faith through grace in Yshua. People criticize Christians for worshipping on the Lords Day (Sunday), yet they honestly believe that worshipping on Saturday is honoring the original Sabbath (Shabbat)! We both challenged the church (Baptist, UPC, AoG) and we learned the false teaching that has engulfed these doctrines. . If you aren't a Jew, then you were considered a Gentile. And before you say that the Torah or the Prophets have no value in your life read this: Rav Shaul (Apostle Paul to the non-Jewish converts of his day and modern-day Christians) even told Timothy in his second letter (2 Tim 3:16-17) All Scripture is God-breathed and is valuable for teaching the truth, convicting of sin, correcting faults and training in right living; thus anyone who belongs to God may be fully equipped for every good work. Please note that at the time Rav Shaul wrote this statement, the Tanakh (Old Testament) were the only written Scriptures available, either in Hebrew or Koine Greek. Jesus Christ (Yashua, his Hebrew Name) and Yahweh are looking for a people, his elect, his saints, his bride to be that will Love him through keeping his commandments, statutes and charge. I tried to deny it several times. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); There are a few things I have questions too that they have published. In that spirit i remain open to be incorrect, however, obviously I do not think i am, but am willing to discuss these matters. Jacob buried Rachel and Israel stood up from the grave. Truth is truth and deception is the name of the game and i will be praying we dont have the condemnation of death hanging over us.. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. Personally, I dont envy anyone who finds themselves fighting against the very God that they claim to love and worship. Below, Rodney Griffin shares what that moment when he sat down to pen the words to "Run To The Door.". But I can say that that teaching on the rapture is truly in line with the full context of scripture! 1. of matters of duty: to perform, execute For the Christians of the 1st century, there was only one way to interpret the Scriptures, the Hebrew way. My wife and i have 33 years together. Countless references and even rebuked a synagogue from the book of Isaiah and rebuked the pharisees and Sadducees while referencing Exodus and Leviticus. Wow, thank you for all of that irrelevant nonsense that had nothing to do with my response to you. Jesus said much more to his disciples. Get a taste for the real calling on Adam then we can talk. ( Heb.7:12, Rev.1:6-8, Rev. His disciples, including Paul never taught this either! If you continue in the letter to the Galatians..in that 3rd chapter you quoted above. Anyone not in one of the houses would also have a place in the house by binding themselves to HIM, in this way they become a sojourner. It like Tiberian Hebrew are forms of this ancient language family with vowel pointing. May the hand of YHVH keep us safe! Matter of fact we see the opposite where God states His sabbaths & feasts are to be done forever as perpetual and everlasting commandments &/or covenants. Remember Jeremiah said the New Covenant was to be with the House of Israel and the House of Judah. Paul is simply talking about keeping Gods laws and commandments without faith and the holy spirit. Now if you go back to the Torah (instructions) from God YHWH Himself did tell people to love him and to love each other so wouldnt that seem odd that Jesus would suggest that loving one another was something brand new and different? I told him that we were told several years ago that an army of . HE DOES NOT CHANGE!!! So there are many more examples but you get the point that Gods law/torah/instruction has been present from the beginning to the end of time & continues into eternity. Romans 6:14 And first of all I want to say this. You claim to be a teacher of the Law and know it not? But so did Adam and Eve. Faith without works is dead. Every Christian uses Hebrew words mixed with their native language does this mean they are puffed up and should be careful of a spirit? Jesus said it best You have a fine way of setting aside the commandments of God for the traditions of men. And therefore not in line with Gods will? They state: "Our obedience is the evidence and substance of our faith.". The Holy Spirit given on Pentecost, the comforter which will teach you all things, we love God because he first loved us, we want to be obedient to his instructions (torah) because that shows God we want to do things HIS way not ours. God wants us to desire(WANT) to keep his commandments and laws because this is his will. Look up the word Ruach in Hebrew, its breath not the 3rd person I dont worship Nimrod, Semiramis and Tammuz. Dont follow the words of a man. In the early phase of his careeruntil around 1536he expressed concern for their plight in Europe and was enthusiastic at the prospect of converting them to Christianity through his religious reforms. Shabbat. Afterwards, let us know what you think of 119 Ministries. I, too, follow Yehoshua, and He is my Lord and Savior. Full disclosure: I do the same at times. I choose the third option of translation. Antonio, I think you sum it up very well. On this point, I appreciate the teaching of http://www.hebrew4christians.com in their article entitled Under the Law, particularly in their Conclusion. We are living in biblical timeswe are seeing prophecy being fulfilled before our eyes. Yahweh is who He has always been and He loves obedience and hates when we deviate from loving and obeying Him according to His commands. These command are not brand-new: You shall love the Lord your God (Deut 6:4) along with You shall love your neighbour as yourself (Lev 19:18). Do they teach Jesus is not the Messiah?, do they teach that Salvation is not through Jesus the Messiah? The law of Moses was given to the people of Israel by God after freeing them from Egyptian slavery. And Im not here to argue this point? I thought to myself, Why would our Creator allow for us to keep all the other commands, but do away with one? Why appoint times for special feasts to be held that were meant to be everlasting only to do away with them later? Why do people feel that the commands of God are considered burdensome or to be in bondage? If we were given Ten Commandments and are taught about them from early on, why do we teach later that we still have Ten Commandments, but only live by nine? Yahweh made it simple, fun, holy, and restful for a reason: it is all that and more! Obviously the oral system was not a sustainable solution, It is not a scripture to pull out and say see, we dont have to follow the commands already given the illustration is to do both but rather works are to be coupled with faith. Were talking about our Bridegroom who will return for us one day. I have to disagree with you as well. Well, Rav Kefa (Peter) and Rav Yochanan (John) didnt seem to care about those things in the Book of Acts when they got arrested for preaching in Yeshuas name. I studied and later on I came across 119 ministries. Then Jesus goes into a diatribe of exposing the surface understanding of the Torah (instructions in righteousness). (John 3:16 paraphrase). And if the disciples writings contradict Jesus then WHO is to be trusted?? Not that it has already passed away. I have still yet to see anyone prove 119 has false teachings.do I agree with everything presented? Learn the Torah, then the Brit HaDesha will be fully understood in the context in which it was written. I am not saying that 119 ministries do not have mistakes. Do we follow the law in order to be saved? 11:13 For ALL the Prophets AND TORAH prophesied UNTIL JOHN. However, you keep your place only because of your trust. It is my honor and a joy to want to be a humble servant of my God as well as accept His grace for my sin so that I should not have death. I study biblical Hebrew and am learning their culture. Loving your neighbor: Also done by keeping the Torah. And as for sacrifices, we are told in the NT that WE are the Temple of God and in Romans 12:1 to offer OURSELVES as a living sacrifice. The glazed brussels sprouts and blackened Ahi Tuna were amazing, but I digress.. The waitress took our order then later brought our meal and served it. Paul dealt with a certain party of Jews that were forcing other believers to fully proselytize in order to be counted as partaking of the covenant. As with other Hebrew Roots groups, many Christians consider 119 ministries a cult. Please, I implore you to read the whole study. 3 Are you so foolish? We only wish more believers would join the ride; its lonely but if thats the way it is for now, so be it. Jesus NC blood was offered in heavens Temple for all sin ever committed. It is and always has been an act of holiness at whatever level of holiness someone is partaking. His love is for ever ref. Those who are deceived with a different spirit and different Jesus are the last to know. This is by means a deception, nor harsh. They see NOTHING different with church and the world at large. Amen!. complete to the bring to an end, abolish, end this is just not acceptable reasoning. Then I said to her while still laughing, Its bad, but I just love it! I heard my own words in my ears & the Holy Spirit pricked my conscience right then, as if saying, what business do you having loving anything you yourself understand is bad. 4 Did you suffer so many things in vainif indeed it was in vain? Chris set us free from the law of sin and death. If you want to start quoting (or misquoting Paul) then I have to ask -are you following Christ or following what you THINK Paul meant? Did you happen to also point out that no penalty, much less the death penalty, was assessed for a man who married two sisters at the same time? So why does it only apply to Israel in ancient days, and not now? Do you not think there is a reason for each and every Word Yahweh uttered in the Scriptures? In 2 Cor 3 Paul uses the same language as Jeremiah and Ezekiel in describing the NC in real time. I am not a pastor, nor a scholar, nor did I study at some fancy college about history or religion. Read all of Jeremiah. We believe our Messiah (Jesus/Yeshua) taught the Torah and obeyed it perfectly. This is nothing more than a knee-jerk reaction to the atrocities inflicted by Hitler. As you say, to those who walk in freedom from sin, sin is undesirable. Also, over time and careful study, you will start to see that the Greek is based and there are many additions added to the Brit by the Catholics, thats just a fact. Gal 5:3 "For I testify again to every man that is circumcised [law keeping], that he is a debtor to do the whole law.. Words mean things and failure of proper terminology and understanding original cultruew leads to all kinds of nonsense. Money he collected was not for him but the collection was for those in need! You know the old saying you can catch more flies with honey than vinegar? And some smack you in the face. Cults have ways that they recruit people into their philosophy/ideology, making them members of such groups. . Pleroo is most certainly used in the context to fill up, to fully preach and the logic 119 uses is sound as a test. WE ARE THUS REDEEMED FROM THE CURSE THE LAW BROUGHT!! I think you are misunderstanding 119ministries as well as what the Hebrew angle is. May God bless you and your deliberation on this. Jesus is talking to his disciples here and has been talking before this versein fact heres what he just said in the same discourse beginning in Ch. I was a Catholic for 15 years. (As a RC, I was challenged at college by JWs, Muslims, Jews, etc. Or does fulfill offer a 3rd and more appropriate translation? ). This is such an opposition to the nature of God. ADONAI will judge his people.[i] When I pray in Hebrew, I do my best never to think in English, Italian, Spanish or German. Sean ..where I live ..people are perishing for a lack of the real gospel ..the words of Jesus as recorded in the sermon on the Mount are not even heeded ( Woe unto you who are rich for you have received your reward , etc. ) In other words, you have been saved (begun) by the Spirit, how can you think your sanctification will happen by the flesh (i.e. I been following 119 ministries for a 7 + month now first i was skeptical on the explanation of the thora but it makes sense and testing everything according to the bible. This is why people who take the Bible seriously cannot take YOU seriously, Pete. I must have misunderstood your initial point in your post. The enemy doesnt confront directly but subtly. . Jews have ALWAYS been part of Israel! Certainly, Abraham followed certain laws / instructions given by his fathers. In these verse, Jesus starts with Jews in Jerusalem & Judea; then he moves to half-Jews, Samaria; then he extends his declaration to every soul: to the ends of the earth. Husbands who used to worship beside their wives and set an example for their children are now obsessed with the law so much that they are crippling their children & absolutely destroying their wives. I do not question that God intended His entire Word (biblical scripture) to be understood and obeyed. 35 By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another. -John 13:34-35 119 Ministries teaches on page 4: Into my adult years Ive read, and studied a lot of different religions and beliefs. It is about the change in Priesthood not a change in covenant. And not only that, if we were to believe that Christmas rose on the first day of the week, (not Monday, but Sunday) then that ultimately proves that Saturday is the Sabbath. Well, we have this the gate is narrow, not wide! 2. It is a return to the true word of God, exactly what Yeshua preached throughout the Nation of Israel. I understand the frustration of truth seekers with what constitutes modern Christianity and their desire to return to our roots . What I said was true and the truth does not care what I think about it . Sorry I couldnt make that more user-friendly. Isaiah 40:8 = YES! Its like they are obeying without any rules. I saw patterns, I learned Hebrew culture, I understood the concepts of the Tanach. It is sad that people credit Constantine with giving Christians a bad name (Which he did! The qualifications for Messiah are found in the first Testament btw. Replacement Theology, Antisemitism and the blatant misinterpretation of the Scriptures are pushing the Protestant Church further and further into apostasy, which means that Yeshua the Messiah will return to earth a lot sooner than most people are expecting. But 119 Ministries doesnt directly say that WHY? Language is not only vocabulary and grammar rules, its also the culture, the traditions, and the mindset of the people who speak it. 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